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neil: it still could kill. the president comes to wall street to lecture and not surprisingly gets a cool response from them. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- shneil: the applause were polite but cool. back to risking too much and paying yourself way too much, which struck some as a bit much from a president who's and spending his -- whose own spending is over the top and whose spending could push the country over the edge. it is good to see you.
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what do you make of this -- he is obviously telling wall street to watch what you do and take some better examples, but his own initiatives have not exactly been fiscally prudent. >> they have not. what is really interesting is you have a juvenile who has never run a business in his life telling wall street how to run their business. the market is starting to show signs of correction, but the uncertainty because we do not know how much more he is going to manipulate them. we do not know how much more he is going to go after high end income earners, people are not putting their money at risk. they are not making new venture investments, said the general population does not know tomorrow if they have a job. healthcare has gone to the back burner, so we may not see something this year. i think they are going to keep trying -- it depends on what the american people do. if the response to the market is
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insisting that the regulation is the problem, not the solution to getting us out of this economic downturn, then the economy will still be alarming, and people will tighten their belts so they will not want to pass anything in healthcare. neil: largely respectful but kind of cool response from some of the wall street honchos in the audience. he did not go before the new york stock exchange, as george bush had when he spoke to the same situation a year-and-a-half ago. why do you think that was? that he did not want to be associated to closely with these guys? that he did not want to seen as lecturing these guys? >> i think that lecturing is part of that because he thinks his base expects that. barack obama is left, and therefore, there is a hostility within that philosophy to not trust markets. do not trust wealthy people. so he has to walk a very tight rope to convince them that he has their interests on his side,
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but then at the same time convince the rest of americans that he is going to get these big bad guys and help regulate them. we, the government, can answer these problems. member, to campaign, he continuously told us that government is the only agency that can solve this economic problem. what we began to see, though, was the market's self correct. they always do. and all of these temporary fixes to postpone the inevitable had really created more uncertainty. shepardneil: in the face of this legislation, something looks likely. it wall street were really panicked about that, you would think it would be selling off like crazy, but from its march lows, it is something like 50%, so maybe they are not so angry. >> i do not think they are angry on health care because most americans get their health care through their employer.
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if he did not have this major cost against this business, the employer would fare better in the long run. it is very difficult for us to say that we do not want a government option where the majority of people still depend on their employer and are largely happy with it. they might be happy, but their employer might not necessarily be happy with that arrangement, so the bad deals being made are for them to say may be something done in the governmental sector is not a bad idea. they could push some people off on to that government plan. neil: so it is in there and selfish interests to do something like that? >> i don't know that i would necessarily call it selfish. because of the manipulation and getting into places that it should not be, we have developed this relationship between employer and employee that is not healthy. to say that it is your employer pose a responsibility to pay your health care in the first place is not a healthy scenario.
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maybe ideas to release that, to release people to be able to let their healthcare dollars follow them, to push the tax incentive over to the person to be able to buy it on the marketplace should be engaged. that is one of the reasons that many are arguing in washington to allow for more time so that we can discuss in full detail some of these other ideas that are coming to the table. for the money to follow the person and to be free and independent of their employer is not a bad idea. neil: bottom line, you think the messages are a little bit mixed. he is preaching to wall street about moving away from your profligate ways when he heads a government that has been doing just the opposite >> > there are those that believe the government is the ultimate answer to all lives problems. in the black community, we have seen them suggest this. we have seen their social policies reflect this, and we have seen the ruling, and i think that is one of the reasons that most americans are now
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uncomfortable with him saying we should expand the heavy-handed government. we have seen what the government does when it gets in every area of our life, so he has to convince society that it is to his interest and our interests to expand government. this is what they want to do, so he needs a bosnian from wall street. i don't believe he is going to get it, and i do not believe he should, but it is in his interest to make people feel more comfortable with what he is proposing. neil: judging by responses, i do not think he won them over today. >> i don't think he won them over, nor should he. neil: now, the democratic congressman who says that health care reform really does not add to government waste and will go a long way toward reversing it. congressman, good to have you. >> nice to be with you. neil: the presidency and wall street really has not learned,
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some of the big ones who are not accepting these big pay packages, but couldn't the same be said of government that just keeps piling on the spending? >> i think that the spending on the tarp, which was necessitated by the financial institutions in wall street, save our economy from just freezing up and going into a disastrous phase and a great depression -- neil: how do you know? >> i think most of the experts on both sides agree that the tarp and the arra is why we are improving, coming out of the recession and not going into a very difficult depression. neil: i don't mean to go on that point, but so many people have said we disproved the negative, that it is really an unprovable point, right? >> but the credit markets were
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frozen, and the only way to unfreeze the was to put liquidity into the system. neil: then how could health care and providing it right now at this delicate time when we are spending more than we have been running deficits far more than we have ever seen, help us? >> because health care can save money, and by putting money into well as and prevention programs, we can save money. and the mortality is a serious issue in this country, particularly in my country. we spend more money on community health care centers to help pregnant mothers to have children that are not premature, we save a lot of money. it costs 20 times as much for a premature baby as it does for a non-premature baby. a lot of wellness programs -- getting vaccinations rather than treating illnesses, learning to deal with diabetes on the front end -- neil: you might be right, but that is again assuming savings said you do not know about. just like this intervention on the part of the government's into the market last year might
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have avoided a cataclysmic thing, but again, no way to know that. given the government's track record on savings that are yet to be seen and the government entering in a big way exacts savings in a big way, what makes you think this would be the charm? >> the cost of health care -- in the last 10 years. it will continue to go up at a white higher than -- at a rate higher than wages. we have got to be concerned. this is a serious issue for security and stability of the american family and the government as far as economic viability, and you can save money. there's no question about it. the previous speaker was talking about getting the government out of our lives. it was the government that brought forth civil rights, and it was the government that brought about medicaid and medicare, and i do not think anybody would want to see medicaid and medicare or social security go away -- neil: that does not mean that medicaid and medicare have not been there a costly boondoggle. medicaid when it started 44
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years ago started on a $65 million budget. it is now a $400 billion budget, handing out $5 trillion in budget -- in benefits. who's to say what you want to come up with now will not do the same? >> that is because of the increase in the cost of health care, which is higher deductibles, higher insurance premiums, more expensive health care -- the most expensive health-care system in the world -- has cost -- has caused medicare and medicaid prices to go up, which it will continue to do -- neil: i understand. really quickly, the president not apparently super married to this public option. are you? >> i think it keeps costs in check, and i think the insurance companies will be balanced by it. some congress people say they have a bill, and they say the other congress people are not signing on to the public option.
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what they are suggesting, i guess, is that there is something wrong with the public option, and that so many congress people would rather pick their private insurance. if that is the case, the insurance industry and the others in the healthcare industry do not have anything to worry about. on one hand, they are worried about taking over too much of the health-care field, but then they say that nobody is signing up for in the congress, so the congressmen must not think it is that good. and we will not be thinking any differently than the public, and the public will not necessarily use it, but for those that do, it will be a check on insurance and keep costs down. i think it is important. neil: they need enough people to do that, right? >> they do, and i think there will be because it will cost less. neil: we shall see. thank you very much. house democrats are within hours of condemning joe wilson for his outburst. even the president is calling this nothing but a big circus. why are they still pushing it? and general motors rolling out
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neil: all right, just getting word that new york's attorney general is reportedly preparing charges against several high-
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ranking bank of america executives at this very hour, including the company's ceo and cfo. they are being accused of failing to alert shareholders of mounting losses at merrill lynch, which the bank rushed to acquire last year. new york attorney general andrew cuomo is expected to export six lap those executives with civil charges. bank of america has long denied and continues to deny any wrongdoing. we will keep you posted. meanwhile, to capitol hill where democrats are getting ready to formally condemn -- formally condemn joe wilson, the guy who shouted last week during the president's speech. wilson has since apologized, and the president has since accepted that apology. now, the president seems to be moving on. >> this is part of what happens. it becomes a big circus instead of us focusing on health care. neil: now, to someone who wants to see congressman wilson formally rebuked.
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good to see you. how many apologies does this guy have to make? >> well, i do not think it is about the number of apologies. i agree with president obama that it has become somewhat of a circus, and we have more important issues we should be focusing on, but i'm going to take my partisan hat off here. the great thing about our country is that we are a nation of laws, and we put our trust in our elected officials to write those laws. and they are in a house that has rules, and it is clear that representative jo wilson broke those rules -- neil: were you just as partisan a couple of years ago when john boehner wanted a resolution to send to the california democrat, was suggested that president bush enjoyed u.s. casualties in iraq? he got nowhere with it. i would think that that is a more egregious thing in this, right? >> i disagree with anyone who
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impugns the integrity of the president, especially from the floor of the house, as rep wilson did. i have talked to a few of my friends in the military who disagree with president obama on a lot of his policies, but they are really upset with the way that rep wilson questioned the integrity of the institution of the presidency -- neil: i understand that, but were you as offended by the way that the democratic house did not go into pete stark for his comments as you are with so far not going after rep wilson for his? >> i will tell you this. during the inauguration ceremonies, i was absolutely offended when i heard some of boos being directed by former president bush. that is unacceptable. rep wilson's comments from the floor of the house during president obama's speech is just as unacceptable. we have got to move past this
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type of dialogue and stop having open season on the president. that is why. it is not about expecting him to kick him out of the house. he needs to be reviewed, reprimanded, censored in some way so it stops it from happening in the future, so that we can have civil dialogue and actually get to the business of governing our country in a way that is respectful. i think it is interesting that a lot of people who have been so upset about how we will have the same type of health care system as they do in england are cheerleading in a sense the way they deal with their prime minister would cheering and laughing and heckling. that is not american values, and i hope we can move past this. i am also concerned with a representative wilson really becoming a cheerleader and the spokesperson for this type of behavior. he is more interested in signing autographs and relishing the celebrity -- neil: i'm not saying he has
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become a bigger than life figure as a result of this, but i do not know where we draw the line. if you are big enough to say what is good for the goose is good for the gander, and democrats who pulled it should be called on the carpet just as much as republicans, and i do remember you saying about being against the billing of george bush during the inauguration, so my hat is off to your consistency, but when you have someone like harry reid saying in the senate that the president is a liar and other democratic leaders referring on the floor of the house and/or the senate to those who oppose the president's health-care initiatives as everything from astroturf to manufactured rates -- where is the rage on the other side for that? i'm saying be mad at everybody. >> i am at at the current state of this course and the level of vitriol we are seeing in some of the policy discussions,
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particularly when it comes to healthcare. really, the fire is being fed by misinformation and by companies who have a profit interest in creating that type of dialogue. neil: always good having you. thank you very much. deal of the century and gm. this is humiliating. stand still so we can get an accurate reading. okay...um...eighteen pounds and a smidge. a smidge? y'know, there's really no need to weigh packages under 70 pounds. with priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service, if it fits, it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. cool. you know this scale is off by a good 7, 8 pounds. maybe five. priority mail flat rate boxes only from the postal service. a simpler way to ship.
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neil: you don't like it after you got it, you did not have to keep it. gm putting its marketing pedal to the middle with a 60-day money back guarantee. effective 60 days you still do not like the car, no problem, no car, no charge. with me now, gm vice chairman bob lutz. why are you guys doing this? >> we need to overcome the resistance in a certain segment
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of the american public who simply have not gotten the word on how great our new product program is, how many car of the year awards we have one, what our fuel economy is. this is a way to try to break through and get over some of the negative perceptions of general motors and actually get people more comfortable about coming in to a dealership, comparing it to competition, and the 60-day satisfaction guarantee is also combined with our five-year 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. we will also be emphasizing that at the same time. neil: let's say that a good many of those folks do not like the car for a variety of reasons and within 60 days return them, and suddenly, you are stuck with an inventory of a lot of cars whose residual value has just gone down 30%. when i buy a new car and leave
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the lot, it is down 80% of something like that, but my point is do you risk that? >> this same type of thing was once tried by a gm subsidiary in the u.k. the percentage of people who bring the vehicle back is under 2%, and the abuse percentage -- that is, those who want a kind of a free two months with a chevrolet corvette or camaro -- that is even lower. neil: really? so this is going to apply to the camaro? >> it applies to everything. neil: so a teenager will hear this or a guy going through a sort of his second act, and for 60 days, i've got a red camaro. >> he has got to make a down payment or pay cash. he has to be current on his payments. the vehicle has to be returned undamaged. i think we have a lot of safeguards, and i do not think
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many people are going to make that huge but some commitment for a 60-day joyride. the ones that may have that tendency, i think the dealers will be able to weed them out. neil: you hope so. the question, as you know, is that you are doing this on our time. we have given your company a lot of money to turn around, and many folks are optimistic that you can and you will, but a lot of other folks think you are not and think that this kind of marketing strategy, while it might be very novel, is going to end up being funded by taxpayers with little result. what do you say to them? >> what i say to that is that it was primarily the government- appointed board and its chairman and whitaker, who very wisely said, "you guys have the best product program in general motors history. you can meet or beat the specifications -- fuel economy, right handling, design, etc. -- of any equivalent ran out there.
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what are they going to do to tell the world?" we said we were operating on a budget. whitaker said they did not want to hear about a budget but wanted to hear about what it takes to get the job done, and he is absolutely right. neil: i know you live and breathe cars. you come up with some of the most impressive models we have known, but ed knows phones. he comes from at&t, very smart guy, but this guy was brought in, and he knows phones and long distance and buyers and calling plans, but what does he know about what your doing? >> he does not know cars very well, but he has read up on it. he has read the magazine reviews. he knows how many car of the year awards we have one. he knows how we stack up -- neil: i know, bush had a ceo not do more than just read a few magazines?
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>> he is not the ceo. neil: you know what i mean. >> he understands the power of communication. that is what he used to transform the power of at&t. he realizes that right now at this juncture in our history, the substantial sums that we are spending in a very effective and very provocative campaign to get more americans to wake up to the reality of the new gm products, which you very kindly mentioned -- that is the best way to spend some of the government's money right now. neil: very good having you on. well, it is the president pushing trade more because he wants to help his union house? and syria williams facing punishment for bad behavior on the court. is that fair?
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neil: playing chicken with china. the president's standing by stiff tariffs on chinese tires, but it may be causing friction on other issues, including the nuclear standoff with north korea. the white house denies it, but china today filing a formal complaint and now threatening to go after our chickens. all this as union leaders applaud the president's decisions, saying it will save american jobs. my next guest says it will actually kill those jobs. explain that. >> i want you to know that i on a red camaro. i'm not a teenager. i bought this car long before the bailout, but it was the
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greatest car i ever bought. neil: you cannot tell me that more than a few young and old would love a 60-day free pass. >> i would love one. on this issue of the tire quotas here, this is something that sprang up last week. it was basically a favor the obama administration did for the steel workers who have been lobbying for this for a long time. when you start playing this protectionist game, you get retaliation. you can see this china strikes back with their on tariffs here you are starting to see the flickers of a new trade war, and it is a tragedy because as you know, trade protectionism is one of the killers of prosperity. neil: and one of the arguments
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behind what triggered in many people's eyes the last great depression. but how does it work? explain to a lot of folks who are not need in this thing. you always get it tit-for-tat and on and on, right? >> first of all, let me explain one thing -- how is it bad for americans? if the chinese are giving us tires at very low prices. the whole concept makes no sense. would we complain if the chinese gave us the tires for free? the impact of these terrorist clearly will be that it will make it more expensive for americans to buy cars -- neil: the argument was back in the 1980's when toshiba was dumping essentially chips at cost in the united states, and that drew benefits to them. in this case, from the government of japan that put american competitors at a disadvantage. where do you draw the line?
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>> i'm against dumping all together. if the owners want to give us things low-cost, all the better, but to your point, what happens in these trade disagreements is it becomes a tit-for-tat. over the weekend, the chinese basically said there were not going to buy our agricultural products or a light manufacturing or cars. and it gets to a kind of escalation, and it makes consumers in both countries were soft, so it is a dangerous situation, and it is just depressing to see the president sucking up to the labor unions rather than holding out for consumers. we make the point in our book that globalization and free trade has been the greatest anti-poverty program in history. it is basically putting low- priced products available to middle-class and low-income people not just in the united states but all over the world. neil: and you one that those days may be numbered. always great to see you, red
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camaro and all. >> it is a convertible. neil: meanwhile, a huge crowd converging in washington. real people, real concerns about what they call really big government, but the white house continues to dismiss them, just like they dismiss us, but should the president be ignoring such a large group of independently minded voters. marianne says it should not, and she is a democrat. you are saying it is a mistake to dismiss opposing points of view. explain. >> if you look at this from a strictly political proposition, barack obama's drop in the polls has, among its independents. that is how he has to -- that is who he has to appeal to, and that is who he has lost. as a strictly political proposition, coming on fox and making his case, especially on
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the economy and health care, is worthwhile because he can win them back. he did that during the general election. one of his best interviews was on fox. al gore did not do that interview. john kerry did not do that interview. it is not the only reason barack obama won, but it helped. if he could do that here on fox, that will help him not only politically, but it will help him with olympia snowe or susan collins in maine, where there are a lot of independents. neil: he has those two, already, doesn't he? >> not on a publicoption. -- not on the public option. can democrats get health care through without them? certainly, but the reality is you lose them in the senate. you win the public auction in the house. let's say you get reconciliation on other issues. it will be that much harder, and you want some of those
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republicans on board with some of these key initiatives. neil: the president is free to talk to anyone he wants, but i always find it odd that he does not because his predecessors did not act that way. i'm sure with bill clinton, early on, he was back then if memory serves not a huge fan of this network or, for that matter, maybe even me. his successor, george bush, not a fan, maybe let's say of the nbc news organization, but he did multiple interviews with that organization. my only point is what every these guys may personally feel about the news organization in question, i imagine there is only upside doing it, just as you pointed out to the president's interview with bill reilly that i think was a game changer.
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-- interview with bill o'reilly that i think was a game changer. are you saying he is being ill- advised or what? >> i do think it is worth looking back at the campaign to see what worked, and i think many of the things that worked in the campaign are not being used now. i know people like to think that governing and campaigning are different things. you could have the best idea, but if you do not know how to sell it, you are going nowhere. i think more of a campaign type mentality -- going on fox, doing more town halls, the kinds of things he is doing right now where he is doing more speeches -- is much more effective. nobody communicates more effectively than barack obama. he can convince most reasonable people of most things, and it is worth his while doing that kind of thing. neil: when i talked to bill clinton, i think his people have expected me to do a little voodoo dance, and when they found out that did not happen, they were ok.
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i asked talked but polite questions, and he gave talk but clear answers. anyway, always good having you. thank you very much. >> thanks so much. neil: she has apologized, so said -- so should serena's williams have to pay? obama says he inherited a financial crisis from george bush. nearly nine months into office, is it time to stop the blame game?
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neil: all right, she has said she is sorry. she has been fined $10,000, but it still may not be enough to serena debt williams off the hook. -- may not be enough to get serena williams off the hook.
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a legendary sports agent says she should pony up much more than 10 grand. he is the inspiration behind jerry maguire. how much more? >> i think she is the victim of an enormous machine now that takes one incident and catapulted into public consciousness through hundreds of auschwitz. so an athlete is captured in one unfortunate moment. we do not just see this one time. we hear it hundred -- through hundreds of outlets. we hear of hundreds of times, so she becomes the poster girl for bad behavior. they could force her to give up all of her winnings -- neil: can they really? even though she has made an apology and paid a fine. how much more does she have to do? >> they have two clauses.
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one of which, under aggravated behavior, if they find either of these, they could do anything up to ban her forever from the grand slams. they could force her to give all of her winnings up for this tournament or find her up to $250,000 -- neil: do you think she should pay and put up a little bit more than she has? >> frankly, the fact that she has apologized for one incident -- and i think did so very appropriately -- ought to be enough, but if they feel under tremendous pressure because of how widely this has been disseminated, that they have to fine her a little more, i think it might be appropriate, but it was a bad call at a time were generally officials backed off, at the most critical part of the match. she threw her racket and then
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went ahead and expletive deleted, a whole bleeping going on. neil: as i understand it, this is not typical behavior on her part. i know condoning what she did, what she said, how she acted -- i'm not doing any of it, but we all make mistakes. she apologized for that mistake. she regretted that mistake, but everyone these days seems to be for their pound of flesh and then some. >> the problem is she gets caught in a backlash against michaelvick, -- michaels vick, every missed the haver --mis behaver. this is the u.s. open. it does not just to cover as a sports event -- a neil: but had these same avenues that we have now been back when john mcenroe was doing
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this stuff, that guy probably would have been executed. >> yes. that was 1990 when he was fined $6,000. the world has turned upside down. howard dean gives one speech, and it is seen 1000 times in the course of his campaign. i guess what i'm saying is this was so vivid that i think there is a certain amount of pressure. i think she does not have a history. she appropriately reacted afterwards, and i think she could put it behind her, but they may feel under pressure. neil: thank you very very much. time is up on the blame game. is it time that someone tell the president of the united states? yet a lot of natural gas has impurities like co2 in it. controlled freeze zone is a new technology...
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>> we inherited some big deficits. >> $1.30 trillion deficit that i inherited >>. we inherited a big mess. my administration inherited a fiscal disaster. this administration has inherited -- item on cleaning up after him. that did not originate under my watch. neil: can president obama continue the blame game? a democratic strategist says he has every right to, but, nancy, when does this stop? >> forget the fact that the dowry that president bush was handed by president clinton was a surplus that was projected to be $700 billion this year, and instead is $1.30 trillion in deficit -- neil: nancy, you are aware we were going into recession. i don't remember him going crazy with the blame game when president bush assumed recession. i just wonder what the statute
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of limitations is. >> what i'm saying is now, he has bequeathed to not only this deficit, but also $2.50 trillion with tax cuts in a basis in that, but now, it was -- as president obama took office, he was facing first quarter 6.5 -- neil: i know. i know, i know, i know, all the horrible things. all i'm asking you is at what point does it become president obama's economy? and for good or ill, it is his? >> if you look six months into his performance, home sales went from falling 10% to an increase of 10%. job losses when from -- neil: so it is his economy right now? >> i am saying that what he has done is he walked into the fourth quarter two minutes, 40 points down -- neil: we were going in a
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handbasket, life was over, everyone was radioactive, gotcha. but if things are improving, and if you are saying that is all president obama, and it is happening under his watch, so he might as well take the credit, so if we got a bad number, you are going to come back and say that is his, too, just to be consistent? neil: what number it >> -- what number and when? neil: you are being selective. you know what? you have already stated that until we start getting good numbers, that is the only time the president can start saying they are his numbers. in other words, you dismiss bad numbers and say that they are all because of george bush and say when the good numbers,, -- you know it, you say it, you feel it, you preach it. >> i love you so much, but let me say what i meant. he is already in six months,
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completely turned the situation for the positive, but it is not -- neil: then why is he still yapping about his predecessor? get over it. come on >>. today, what he is saying is he is never going to let this happen again. you cannot have a bypass and then go get a big mac. neil: you can't? i wish you had told me that. always good having you on. thank you very much. what the president could learn from used car salesman. . .
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announcer: spiriva does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. stop taking spiriva and call your doctor if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, or have vision changes or eye pain. tell your doctor if you have glaucoma, problems passing urine or an enlarged prostate, as these may worsen with spiriva. also discuss the medicines you take, even eye drops. side effects may include dry mouth, constipation and trouble passing urine. every day could be a good day to breathe better. announcer: ask your doctor if once-daily spiriva is right for you.
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neil: well, not that he would be taking advice from me, but if the president wants to improve public support for his healthcare reform, he should think more like a salesman than statesman, even a used car salesman, not that he is, mind you, but he could do worse taking cues from folks who don't take no for ans answer. the only way you could win over
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folks is remove doubts, offer them guarantees, you heard me right, offer what you are guaranteeing in writing for what you are saying. you say your plan won't mean giving up your doctor, then guarantee you get to keep your doctor. you say healthcare won't be rationed, then guarantee it in writing that it won't be rationed. guarantee you won't wait in line. guarantee you won't die waiting for a vitevital mri or cat scan. if you say the death panel talk is silly, then guarantee no democrat will even hint at what our end-of-life wishes are or are not. while you are rat it, you say this whole healthcare reform of yours won't add to the deficit, go ahead and guarantee that, not just with spending cut triggers that you are promising but spending cut triggers that you are guaranteeing -- you don't pay, you have to play.
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he is protected in case there is a lemon and won't pay through the nose if he, indeed, has got a lemon. mr. president, you insist it ain't a lemon. then guarantee it. guarantee we won't pay more or get less, not with words but actions an irrevocable guarantees that. will help you close the deal. just ask g.m., mr. president. they're giving folks 60 days to try their cars. if they don't like those cars, they don't have to buy those cars. there is a company standing by its stuff, even though it's our company now, but i digress now, no matter. if the government offered the same guarantees on healthcare, this reform thing of yours would take off. mr. president, i guarantee it, guarantee it. tonight at 6:00 p.m. on f.b.n. by the way, which, if you don't have it -- demand it! neil: yeah, an exclusive chat with former alabama governor don siegleman. he was snc
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